Have do you ever felt overwhelmed by how many ‘bad things’ are going on in the world right now? Today’s guest, artivist (art activist) Roaman (otherwise known as ‘the kundalini guy’), will remind you how to notice the good things in front of you, why you might be missing them right now and how you can ‘stay open to life’.
In this episode, Roaman shares
- How an angel reminded him to ‘stay open to life’,
- How trying to sell a car taught him about missing what is right in front of us
- How ‘even when things seemed to be falling apart, they were actually still coming together’
- And many more inspiring stories…
Towards the end of our conversation, Roaman shares the three foundations, or mantras, that he uses in his life. I love the simple wisdom of what he shares, so be sure to listen out for that.
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Below you’ll find shownotes with links to many of the things we discussed plus links to Roaman
Roaman’s Links:
- Roaman’s website
- Follow Roaman on Instagram
- Stream Roaman’s music
- Support Roaman’s art on Patreon (and get weekly previews of unreleased songs)
Links and things discussed in this episode:
- Namaste as fuck – cool brand Roaman Loves (NB: enter ROAMANAF for 15% off)!
- How an angel reminded Roaman to “Stay Open To Life”
- On Touring Costa Rica with Sam Garrett
- The power of consistency, persistence, showing up and being passionate about what you do
- An inspiring quote from Rainer Maria Rilke for creatives
- How Roaman navigates sharing what is a very unpopular opinion in the greater society
- On losing friends and making new ones through speaking his truth
- How his viral Covid9Tunes came about
- On realising that “This is a time where you make your own path”
- Exploring the masculine and the role of the peaceful warrior
- How Roaman became famous as ‘that kundalini guy’
- What is enlightenment?
- The crazy basketball awareness test (I did this, it’s wild!)
- Roaman on what We Are Already Free means for him
- How the mind will come up with problems, even when there are no problems
- Mystic path to cosmic powers – Vernon howard (BOOK)
- How “Even when stuff seemed to be falling apart, it was still coming together”
- Dr Joe Dispenza – Becoming Supernatural (BOOK)
- Roaman on how to manifest the reality you want
- “The people that see the world the way you do, that feel the way you do, can’t find you if they don’t know that that’s the way you feel” – Roaman
- Why you should be more of yourself even though it might be scary
- The three foundations, or mantras, that Roaman uses in his life
- And even more…
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Transcript
Welcome to we are already free, a podcast helping free people to
Speaker:live their truth and be the change rather than spending too much time
Speaker:fighting against what they don't want.
Speaker:Have you ever felt overwhelmed by how many bad things are going on
Speaker:in the world right now? Well, today's episode is
Speaker:definitely for you, artivist Roaman.
Speaker:Will remind you how to notice the good things right in front of you
Speaker:which you might currently be missing.
Speaker:Roaman shares how an Angel reminded him to stay open to life,
Speaker:how trying to sell a car taught him about missing what is right in
Speaker:front of us.
Speaker:How even when things seem to be
Speaker:falling apart, they were actually still coming together.
Speaker:And many more inspiring stories.
Speaker:Towards the end of our
Speaker:conversation, Roaman shares the three foundations, or mantras that
Speaker:he uses in his life.
Speaker:I love the simple wisdom of what
Speaker:he shares, so be sure to listen out for that.
Speaker:I'm your host, Nathan maingard.
Speaker:I was nearly crushed by my
Speaker:attempts to fit into the box our society calls.
Speaker:Being a good citizen, I now dedicate my life to supporting
Speaker:seekers like you in remembering that we are already free.
Speaker:If this podcast serves you, please take a moment to leave a review so
Speaker:other seekers can find this simple reminder and realize that they are
Speaker:not alone.
Speaker:Now, please enjoy this
Speaker:conversation with my dear brother Roaman.
Speaker:What's up? Good to see you, my friend.
Speaker:Kind of good to see you too.
Speaker:We we're in the same colors.
Speaker:Yeah, we're looking matched.
Speaker:I know this was not planned, but
Speaker:it means we're fully aligned.
Speaker:Yeah, manifest that shit.
Speaker:That's cool.
Speaker:Where did you get that shirt from?
Speaker:This shout out to my friends.
Speaker:This is a California brand run by
Speaker:all women. It's called Namaste as fuck and we
Speaker:connected on Instagram.
Speaker:I saw the day I think they left
Speaker:the comment on one of my videos and I saw the name.
Speaker:I was like, what is that? And then I saw what they do and
Speaker:the ethos behind and I got in touch and they were super cool.
Speaker:They sent me a few of these, which are now some of my favorite tank
Speaker:tops and T-shirts So maybe they'll see this.
Speaker:Thank you so much.
Speaker:I love it.
Speaker:I might need to get more.
Speaker:Manifest that shit.
Speaker:That's fantastic.
Speaker:Do you know that joke about the
Speaker:guy who, like, there's a hippie who's come and staying in at his
Speaker:friend's house and he's like sleeping on the couch and he's
Speaker:just he's been there too long and the friend comes up to him one
Speaker:day. He's like, listen, man, like,
Speaker:you've been here weeks staying on my couch.
Speaker:Are you gonna leave anytime soon? And he says, Nah, I'm gonna stay.
Speaker:Yeah, so that I think I stayed in the.
Speaker:I stayed in an Airbnb somewhere and they had that and like a
Speaker:little frame over the bed.
Speaker:I was like, yeah, I'm in the right
Speaker:place. That's a good one.
Speaker:That's a good one.
Speaker:I actually love.
Speaker:I think I was thinking about Namaste yesterday or today about
Speaker:how often I've heard people say it because Namaste the divine and me
Speaker:recognizes the divine in you.
Speaker:I mean, it's a beautiful thing to
Speaker:really say and I know it's become a bit cliched in many ways, but at
Speaker:the same time.
Speaker:I was thinking about how often
Speaker:I've heard people say that and then immediately say, like, yeah,
Speaker:but fuck those guys like.
Speaker:Namaste to. Everybody except them.
Speaker:Yeah, it's a funny one, yeah.
Speaker:Yeah, it is a powerful one and I
Speaker:don't remember who.
Speaker:At some point someone said, you
Speaker:know, that's something that you can say inwardly whenever you meet
Speaker:someone. It doesn't have to be because
Speaker:sometimes saying it can come from a place of, hey, I want you to
Speaker:know that I'm the type of person that would say namaste, but you
Speaker:can say inwardly and still feel that and have that recognition.
Speaker:And it's yeah, it's very powerful.
Speaker:That makes me think of gift giving
Speaker:and anonymous gift giving because i realize often a gift given can
Speaker:come with the feeling of, oh, I can't wait to see how this
Speaker:person's going to react or like, I can't wait to that feeling of
Speaker:like, oh, they're so grateful for the cool gift they gave them.
Speaker:And there's something about internalizing that or like giving
Speaker:an anonymous gift that still has really a lot of value, but like it
Speaker:just meeting someone, being like internally Namaste, like really
Speaker:acknowledging. That's the space I'm practicing
Speaker:coming from. There's something a bit more
Speaker:subtle about that, because it's like you say it's not.
Speaker:Then I'm the kind of person who says, no, I'm a stay and I need
Speaker:you to know that all right.
Speaker:And Speaking of, what do you call
Speaker:a gift? Gift giving.
Speaker:And do it, do it anonymously.
Speaker:There's a thing in Italy and
Speaker:probably other places too, where when you go to a what we call bar
Speaker:would be a cafe.
Speaker:So you go to a bar and you pay for
Speaker:your own coffee, and then you pay for an extra coffee for the next
Speaker:person. So then the person after arrives
Speaker:and then they'll say, oh, this one's already paid for.
Speaker:And then that person pays for the next one.
Speaker:And then.
Speaker:And it keeps going like that.
Speaker:Yeah, I like that very much.
Speaker:There's a thing around generosity
Speaker:and abundance that comes up with that where I remember hearing the
Speaker:story of like the sort of general Western mindset versus or in
Speaker:comparison with the general Eastern mindset.
Speaker:The one being like if you generally, if I talk to someone in
Speaker:the West or even notice myself, I'm like, I focus so much on the
Speaker:things I don't have or the people who have more than me and I heard
Speaker:a story where they say, like if you go to a guy, you might have
Speaker:even told me the story at some point, but if you go to a guy
Speaker:who's on the street.
Speaker:In India.
Speaker:And he's just got, like, his little begging bowl.
Speaker:And you and you say to him, like, wow, man, you don't.
Speaker:Are you OK? You don't have much.
Speaker:He's like, no i have a bowl.
Speaker:Like that guy doesn't even have a
Speaker:bowl. I'm good.
Speaker:And there's like, such a difference in that mindset.
Speaker:Yeah, the you said something about that.
Speaker:We think about the things we don't have.
Speaker:It became this kind of like inside joke in Costa Rica and the
Speaker:community where I live in Santa Teresa where often.
Speaker:You know, life was you have this awareness of how good life is
Speaker:there when you're surrounded by people or maybe you're playing
Speaker:music and when we're having these moments of like, wow, pure
Speaker:gratitude for life, I started saying, guys, let's talk about all
Speaker:the things we don't have.
Speaker:This show the like contrast of how
Speaker:truly like if you want to you could be in paradise and talk
Speaker:about all the things we don't have and also you could just like be
Speaker:present with whatever life is offering and it's more than
Speaker:enough. Yeah, man. Infinite abundance
Speaker:beautiful speaking of which, so I we were speaking a little bit
Speaker:before, and I and you told me there's a story.
Speaker:And I'm very curious to hear this story just as we get this show on
Speaker:the road. And that is the story of stay open
Speaker:to life and your experience of that around Costa Rica and how
Speaker:that song came about.
Speaker:And yeah, just give us that tale
Speaker:yeah so to give context to those that may not have heard that song,
Speaker:Steven to life is a song that I wrote a couple months ago.
Speaker:And it was also the name of the tour that Sam and I went on in
Speaker:Costa Rica, our dear friend Sam Garrett, we were organized this
Speaker:tour for about two months, and we were thinking of names, brainstorm
Speaker:in a couple and stay open to life.
Speaker:We're like, yeah, that's the one.
Speaker:So in my own life, stay open.
Speaker:Life is a mantra has become a
Speaker:probably the biggest one right now.
Speaker:And the story which we have been sharing still open to life.
Speaker:The song was the song that we would finish all of our shows with
Speaker:when we were on tour and so we would share the song towards the
Speaker:end to kind of like bring it all together and that last year in I
Speaker:think June. Me and Sam were both in Costa
Speaker:Rica. We were not supposed to be in
Speaker:Costa Rica together.
Speaker:I was supposed to be already in
Speaker:the states. What happened is that I was
Speaker:supposed to be in Costa Rica for just two weeks and then go to the
Speaker:states to be with my at the time partner and I was never even
Speaker:allowed on the plane as I was boarding my passport, my ticket
Speaker:was didn't wasn't scanning.
Speaker:They said sorry, your visa has
Speaker:been cancelled. You cannot board this plane.
Speaker:And I was like what you're telling me now, like I'm checked in, I'm
Speaker:like I see the plane.
Speaker:So Long story short.
Speaker:They leave me in Costa Rica.
Speaker:I am very confused, very lost, a
Speaker:lot of pressure in my relationship at the time, which you know, ended
Speaker:up not working out.
Speaker:So all these things were happening
Speaker:and Sam happened to be in Costa Rica at the same time.
Speaker:So we're traveling together and we're both going through a lot.
Speaker:We're in a very beautiful place, but inside there's.
Speaker:Yeah, we're going through a lot in our relationships, you know,
Speaker:separately. And there's a lot of confusion and
Speaker:this one day.
Speaker:We were I think just buying some
Speaker:water or some like just stop somewhere for five minutes and
Speaker:this guy. That this guy looked like a
Speaker:homeless guy. And it came out of nowhere.
Speaker:I don't know where you came from.
Speaker:And he looked a little bit like
Speaker:crazy. He had this smile.
Speaker:Was like a little bit crazy, but not like bad crazy.
Speaker:Just like not fully there.
Speaker:But anyway, this guy came up to us
Speaker:out of nowhere.
Speaker:And he's just slipped at us and he
Speaker:went stay open to life.
Speaker:Like that 7 hour put like what?
Speaker:And like I felt an explosion in my chest just like because I was the
Speaker:opposite of woman to life.
Speaker:I was contracted, I was tense.
Speaker:I was in my head.
Speaker:I was worrying.
Speaker:I was trying to figure out life in my brain, which I don't know if
Speaker:you figured out never really seems to work.
Speaker:And he said saving the life.
Speaker:And then honestly, I think he
Speaker:disappeared. I don't know where he went.
Speaker:It's just like it's gone.
Speaker:And Sam and I were both like, that
Speaker:was an Angel.
Speaker:That was 100 % some type of Angel
Speaker:messenger and I remember the impact that this stranger coming
Speaker:out of nowhere and saying stay open to life not knowing that I
Speaker:was going through a lot and that day I said I'm going to write a
Speaker:song about this for sure which you know and then I did but.
Speaker:Staying open to life has become huge because after that experience
Speaker:of not being able to fight in the states, breaking up with my
Speaker:partner and this is someone I was thinking of potentially marrying.
Speaker:You know with our at the time it was a four, almost four year or
Speaker:maybe 3 and a half year relationship.
Speaker:And but after that.
Speaker:I went from being lost and
Speaker:confused and I don't know what's happening there too.
Speaker:Life unfolded in such a beautiful way and somehow I found myself in
Speaker:this little town called Santa Teresa on the Pacific Coast where
Speaker:I met a bunch of really beautiful people.
Speaker:Is wonderful community that pretty much adopted me, and even though I
Speaker:was supposed to just be there for a little bit, then somehow they
Speaker:someone offered me a place to stay in this beautiful place.
Speaker:So Long story short, I've been living in Costa Rica for about a
Speaker:year. And it's one of the best things
Speaker:that ever happened to me.
Speaker:And it came from something that
Speaker:felt and looked and seemed like my life was completely falling apart
Speaker:from my own perspective.
Speaker:I have this plan.
Speaker:I'm going to go straight for two weeks, I am moving to the states,
Speaker:I am marrying this woman.
Speaker:And then life goes, no, that's not
Speaker:the plan also, and this is another beautiful part.
Speaker:The year and a half before flying to Costa Rica thinking I was gonna
Speaker:then go to the states I was in Italy, in frigeni, this little
Speaker:town where I'm I am right now as well.
Speaker:And I was alone for most of the year, about a year and a half.
Speaker:And as most of us during lockdown during the pandemic, we were, you
Speaker:know, disconnected and alone and lost.
Speaker:And what was going on? What am I gonna do with my life?
Speaker:But every day I would do.
Speaker:By, you know, a little morning
Speaker:practice with some yoga, some stretches, some movement, little
Speaker:meditation, and I would take even just five minutes to consciously
Speaker:visualize. Ok, what do I want?
Speaker:Forget about how I'm gonna get there.
Speaker:And how is it gonna work out? What do I want?
Speaker:How do I wanna feel? Where do I wanna be?
Speaker:And I would imagine myself on a beach somewhere.
Speaker:It's a bit of a cliche, but that's me.
Speaker:I imagine myself on a beach surrounded by beautiful people.
Speaker:Freedom, you know, peace, community.
Speaker:And I didn't know where it would be.
Speaker:I wasn't even thinking about Costa Rica.
Speaker:But I knew.
Speaker:And I would sit and I would think
Speaker:this is where I want to be.
Speaker:This is I wanna feel.
Speaker:And then I would kind of just let it go again.
Speaker:It's locked down.
Speaker:I can't go anywhere.
Speaker:But it's it feels, looking back, that their intention, their
Speaker:awareness of what I want to do to my life to look like and just
Speaker:planting that seed.
Speaker:In the universe, so you can, you
Speaker:know, saying it to God, whatever terminology you prefer, it did
Speaker:something because it's almost as if.
Speaker:Then life responds and says, what do you want that OK, and it might
Speaker:not look like what you want in the moment, or it might feel, yeah,
Speaker:like your life is falling apart, but then it truly is coming
Speaker:together and now after this experience this year and a half
Speaker:long kind of process.
Speaker:I can honestly look back and be
Speaker:grateful even for the most painful and heartbreaking parts.
Speaker:Because it was a brutal process to like let go of what I thought I
Speaker:wanted my life to be and becoming again open to life in a way that I
Speaker:could say, you know what I trust you like bring it on and then it
Speaker:it's. Way better than what I could have,
Speaker:you know, designed in my own head.
Speaker:So stay over until life, I hope.
Speaker:Yeah, it's a good one.
Speaker:You should try it out never.
Speaker:No, thank you, brother.
Speaker:That is such a beautiful story.
Speaker:And actually this seems like a good time.
Speaker:If you're open to sharing the songs, they're open to life.
Speaker:I'd love to love to have that definitely.
Speaker:Only a fool thinks he knows.
Speaker:Why some doors old being in
Speaker:somewhere close? Sometimes it does and sometimes it
Speaker:grows. And like a Beaver is flows allow
Speaker:embrace. Give things for it all.
Speaker:No doubt.
Speaker:Fierce grace.
Speaker:Now let it fall.
Speaker:Slow down rephrase what's keeping
Speaker:you small? Breathe out.
Speaker:Be brave and serve the call.
Speaker:Stay up, man.
Speaker:Open to life, stay.
Speaker:Open to life.
Speaker:Stay up, man.
Speaker:And to life stay up and open to
Speaker:live. Put down the weight of your world.
Speaker:Turn down the voice in your head.
Speaker:For when you thought that you
Speaker:could not can't be on, you were giving it instead.
Speaker:Allow, embrace, give thanks for it all.
Speaker:Now fees grace now let it all fall.
Speaker:Slow down rephrase what's keeping you?
Speaker:Smile breathe out.
Speaker:Be brave.
Speaker:And Sir, the car.
Speaker:Stay up, man.
Speaker:Open to life, stay open to life.
Speaker:You gotta stay open to life, stay
Speaker:up and open.
Speaker:When the road isn't clear, nor the
Speaker:answer is near, there is magic and work.
Speaker:You gonna nothing to fear.
Speaker:You got nothing to fear.
Speaker:I will stay open and let some open.
Speaker:I'll trust in life and give things.
Speaker:I will see you then.
Speaker:I'm hoping I'll trust in life and
Speaker:give things. I give thanks for what it brings,
Speaker:I give thanks for what it takes.
Speaker:Winter, summer, fall and spring.
Speaker:It don't matter.
Speaker:I give crazy as I give praise for
Speaker:brand new chapters, praises for the old, and I live in love and
Speaker:life, watching the days unfold.
Speaker:Watching my days unfold.
Speaker:Stay up, man.
Speaker:Both into life saving.
Speaker:Open to life.
Speaker:You gotta stay open to life, stay
Speaker:on bed. I'm gonna stay open to life open.
Speaker:Wanna stay open? man delay.
Speaker:Stay up, man.
Speaker:Beautiful brother. She's that song
Speaker:is gorgeous.
Speaker:We even got someone right now.
Speaker:I'm actually listening from Santa Teresa, my alma that's awesome.
Speaker:Beautiful, my alma indigo well shut out the Santa Theresa in the
Speaker:jungle. Beautiful, man. What a gorgeous
Speaker:song. It's also there's something.
Speaker:Funny, I was thinking about this as well just in the last 24 hours
Speaker:around like ending shows on a quiet song and that's something.
Speaker:It's like there's a certain courage and vulnerability to being
Speaker:willing to club.
Speaker:To play that as a last song in a
Speaker:show is like willing to go to that.
Speaker:Well, I'm gonna make a.
Speaker:I'm gonna.
Speaker:What do you what's the word? I'm gonna make an amendment, as
Speaker:you say that to what I said earlier.
Speaker:And adjustment yeah so that was the cause.
Speaker:Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker:That was, in fact, the second to
Speaker:last. Song that makes sense.
Speaker:The last song, so there would be, you know, I would play my set and
Speaker:then Sam would play his set and then after people have been
Speaker:dancing, going crazy, we would bring it back down to stay open to
Speaker:life, very intimate, very gentle, like very heart opening.
Speaker:And then we would do too blessed to be stressed.
Speaker:You know, it's like massive mesh up with a bunch of other songs.
Speaker:But yeah, there's something about bringing it back down cause like,
Speaker:yes, it's amazing when we're out dancing and feeling and like, that
Speaker:alone is incredible.
Speaker:But something about like, really,
Speaker:I feel like even when I sing this song just to myself, it really
Speaker:grounds me. And there's something about even
Speaker:just the melody that it feels like it helps me to come back here and
Speaker:like, OK, I can stay on.
Speaker:Staying open is not it i liked it
Speaker:because in a way, you don't actually have to do much.
Speaker:You just have to stay open.
Speaker:Yeah, you just stay open and then
Speaker:see what comes and how you can react but.
Speaker:Yeah, like that.
Speaker:Song that's beautiful, man.
Speaker:Oh, it's beautiful.
Speaker:There's actually that reminds me
Speaker:of a story, this woman, Monica Kromhout, who is a South African.
Speaker:She's called they call it the mushroom grand Granny.
Speaker:She's basically is this, like, looks like a little suburbian
Speaker:grandma like you never would imagine, but she's been serving
Speaker:magic mushrooms, sacred mushrooms, for like 12 years from her house
Speaker:in a little normal suburb in just outside of Cape Town.
Speaker:And I I'm actually going to get her on this podcast at some point.
Speaker:But we were chatting a while ago and she was talking about how the
Speaker:first act, she'd been working with iOS skin and it helped her like.
Speaker:Your husband passed on.
Speaker:She literally just wanted to die.
Speaker:She didn't want to live anymore.
Speaker:That was it.
Speaker:She and she just couldn't reconnect.
Speaker:And then someone introduced her to Iowaska and she was like not the
Speaker:kind of person to even know anything about that kind of stuff.
Speaker:And she went into the ceremony and had this huge transformation and
Speaker:continued working with ayahuasca.
Speaker:But anyway, Long story short, she
Speaker:eventually was introduced to sacred mushrooms and she took them
Speaker:outside in her garden the one day and the mushrooms were like she's
Speaker:literally said. I heard the voice of mushrooms
Speaker:saying you are going to run a mushroom school at your house and
Speaker:you're just gonna.
Speaker:Help people to work with this
Speaker:medicine. And she was like, she's like, I
Speaker:don't know nothing about mushrooms, how am I going to be
Speaker:doing this? And the mushrooms said all you
Speaker:need to do is keep the door open and everything will be taken care
Speaker:of, yeah, stay open.
Speaker:It reminds me of the other story
Speaker:which I think you shared.
Speaker:I think you share with someone of
Speaker:that, the meditation teacher, someone who was trying to do the
Speaker:same and wanted to start this, wanted to start meditating with
Speaker:people. And so she started putting the
Speaker:word out and she said, you know, every Sunday at my house door is
Speaker:open. And I think for a year nobody went
Speaker:but she every Sunday she would still do it and keep the door
Speaker:open. And then now it's like one of the
Speaker:biggest. Meditation centers in the states
Speaker:or something crazy like.
Speaker:That I love that.
Speaker:I don't know.
Speaker:I've never heard that story.
Speaker:That's beautiful.
Speaker:I love that that's another one.
Speaker:There's another one about a priest who it's like his journal that
Speaker:someone found his journal years later or something.
Speaker:And it's like.
Speaker:Went to do a sermon today like
Speaker:three people were there.
Speaker:And then he did another one like
Speaker:and 10 people and then no one and then five.
Speaker:And then it's like and now 300 and then 5000 and like it's just.
Speaker:But he just kept showing up, like just kept showing up and that was
Speaker:a. There's some power there, and
Speaker:that's keeping the door open, just like I'm just going to keep
Speaker:serving in the way that it feels aligned.
Speaker:I love that.
Speaker:Umm, even, you know, you mentioned
Speaker:we met in London, the Inspiral, the Vegan Cafe, and there was a
Speaker:little stage and you would host the open mic.
Speaker:I'm sure that when you started there was not a lot of people that
Speaker:would go, but in the end we couldn't fit in the cafe and we
Speaker:started doing shows in bigger venues and it was just because,
Speaker:you know, you kept.
Speaker:Growing up.
Speaker:And then we came and then we kept showing up and then other people
Speaker:came and and yeah, the power of.
Speaker:Perseverance or persistence and
Speaker:also really liking and being passionate about what you do.
Speaker:And I often I get maybe like, I'm talking to someone or I get a
Speaker:little message. Someone would say, like, hey, I'm
Speaker:either I'm just starting to play guitar or just started writing my
Speaker:own songs or do you have any advice?
Speaker:And there's many things that you could say in that I often say.
Speaker:But one thing I say is make sure that you really love it because
Speaker:you will have challenges.
Speaker:You will have days where you're
Speaker:like, fuck this.
Speaker:I don't wanna play for anybody.
Speaker:Nobody cares.
Speaker:Nobody's listening.
Speaker:This isn't going anywhere.
Speaker:Like it doesn't matter what you
Speaker:do, they will be that often in the beginning, especially.
Speaker:So the difference is, do I really like what I'm doing?
Speaker:And do I feel like it's if it serves even a greater purpose than
Speaker:just, you know, you sharing your own art, which is beautiful in
Speaker:itself, then even more, keep doing it because it'll somehow it'll
Speaker:work out. I love that this reminds me.
Speaker:There's a part I don't know if you've heard of him.
Speaker:Never Maria rilke.
Speaker:It was.
Speaker:I think a German saw it yeah so he there's a book of his called
Speaker:letters to a young poet.
Speaker:And it's basically a fan.
Speaker:This is not like early nineteen, hundreds i think.
Speaker:Don't know exactly when, but it's a good while ago.
Speaker:And what a fan of his was writing letters to him and he was
Speaker:replying. And this book is his replies to
Speaker:this young poet.
Speaker:And there's one quote, and I've
Speaker:actually saved it.
Speaker:I've got it here because a nice
Speaker:when people will send me those kind of messages like, hey man,
Speaker:I'm just starting like, here's a poem or here's a song like what do
Speaker:you think? And i actually generally send them
Speaker:this because I just.
Speaker:I think it's such a good reminder,
Speaker:especially when you're starting out what to focus on or how to
Speaker:know if you're heading in the right direction.
Speaker:And I'll read it to you.
Speaker:It's a bit, it's not super long,
Speaker:but I'll read it to you.
Speaker:It's, I'm sure you'll enjoy it.
Speaker:So it says, please, you ask whether your verses are any good.
Speaker:You ask me.
Speaker:You have asked others before this.
Speaker:You send them to magazines, you compare them with other poems, and
Speaker:you are upset when certain editors reject your work.
Speaker:Now, since you have said that you want my advice, I beg you to stop
Speaker:doing that sort of thing.
Speaker:You are looking outside, and that
Speaker:is what you should most avoid right now.
Speaker:No one can advise or help you.
Speaker:No one.
Speaker:There is only one thing you should do.
Speaker:Go into yourself.
Speaker:Find out the reason that commands
Speaker:you to write.
Speaker:See whether it has spread its
Speaker:roots into the very depths of your heart.
Speaker:Confess to yourself whether you would have to die if you were
Speaker:forbidden to write this.
Speaker:Most of all, ask yourself, in the
Speaker:most silent hour of your night must I write?
Speaker:Dig into yourself for a deep answer, and if this answer rings
Speaker:out in assent.
Speaker:If you meet this solemn question
Speaker:with a strong, simple I must then build your life in accordance with
Speaker:this necessity.
Speaker:Your whole life, even into its
Speaker:humblest and most indifferent hour, must become a sign and
Speaker:witness to this impulse sheep.
Speaker:Like Trump.
Speaker:You need that.
Speaker:I want those like reggaeton, kind
Speaker:of like sirens like yeah, wow, that is huge yeah,
Speaker:Please send it.
Speaker:Please send that.
Speaker:Yeah, please.
Speaker:That's huge.
Speaker:Yeah, it might be.
Speaker:That might be one of the biggest
Speaker:things I've ever heard yeah i love that it's so it's the perfect
Speaker:response because i want to help people, you know, like, and I know
Speaker:that feeling in myself.
Speaker:I know the feeling of wanting
Speaker:someone to tell me that I'm good enough, that what I've done is
Speaker:good enough when that's actually not the most important thing.
Speaker:And like a lot of people say to me now when they hear my poems or my
Speaker:lyrics, my words, they're like, wow, you've got such a gift.
Speaker:And I think to myself, like, you know what?
Speaker:I think a gift is more than anything.
Speaker:And I.
Speaker:And not to say for everything.
Speaker:I mean, I think for like, Michael Jordan.
Speaker:Or like if you're a certain sports, etcetera.
Speaker:But let's just talk about creativity in general, like.
Speaker:I think what people call a gift is a lifetime of passion and
Speaker:persistence and care and repetition and failure and getting
Speaker:it wrong.
Speaker:That's what people now call a
Speaker:gift. So and say, oh, you're so
Speaker:talented. It's like, well you could be
Speaker:talented too if you dedicated 30 plus years to words.
Speaker:Yeah, no, it's true.
Speaker:They unless you're like a four
Speaker:year old that can play Mozart.
Speaker:Like that's a fucking gift.
Speaker:But like otherwise, yeah, there's the behind the scene that people
Speaker:don't see is the so-called what like the sweat and tears of fully
Speaker:devoting yourself to a craft, whatever that is for sure.
Speaker:Well, I'd love to ask you about so you.
Speaker:You've had you've spoken out quite strongly in these times and I
Speaker:remember at the time when you started writing those songs for
Speaker:anyone who doesn't know Rick Ricardo.
Speaker:I always want to call you Ricardo, but Roaman.
Speaker:I know your name.
Speaker:I don't know what to do about
Speaker:that, because that's become a problem where people don't know
Speaker:what name to use.
Speaker:And now I'm also known as the
Speaker:kundalini guy. There's this whole confusion from.
Speaker:Anyway, but. When you basically started creating these songs that
Speaker:were speaking out and basically using satire and song to point out
Speaker:the ridiculousness of what's been happening the last few years.
Speaker:And I remember you shared with me at some point you said, like,
Speaker:people had been saying, oh, you're just hopping on the train and now
Speaker:you just want to like, you just want to get on board the Corona
Speaker:train and take advantage of it so people pay you attention.
Speaker:And I don't know if you remember that or what you said, but I mean,
Speaker:I do, but I don't know if you remember.
Speaker:What was going on for you at that point?
Speaker:I think, I mean, in the beginning it was is it was an even now, like
Speaker:it's not a popular opinion to have.
Speaker:So right that argument of.
Speaker:I did it for the attention.
Speaker:First of all, there was almost no one saying what I was posting at
Speaker:the time. It was more like a.
Speaker:Me venting musically.
Speaker:Yeah, thing.
Speaker:Well, so the thing that you said that really struck me was, which
Speaker:was accurate, is that you were like, I've been doing these kind
Speaker:of, I've been doing rebellion songs and revolutionary songs for
Speaker:forever. And so the fact that you think,
Speaker:like, I'm just doing it about what's happening right now and
Speaker:what I see is, like, you seem to be have navigated this the way the
Speaker:camps to me is edgewalker it's like you are, you know, you're
Speaker:back home in Italy right now.
Speaker:You're surrounded by a lot of
Speaker:people who don't have the same opinions as you, and yet you're
Speaker:managing to navigate this all with what seems like to me, with some
Speaker:kind of grace.
Speaker:So I'm just wondering what that
Speaker:feels like to be an edge Walker, to be a voice for an unpopular
Speaker:opinion and how you are navigating that in yourself.
Speaker:First of all, I don't think I've ever felt as cool as a second ago
Speaker:when you asked me what does it feel like to be an edge Walker.
Speaker:I need that on a T-shirt Well, the Grace, if there was any, came
Speaker:after losing my shit a few times for sure.
Speaker:Especially in the beginning well.
Speaker:It started honestly with me.
Speaker:Just writing my just voicing my upset and disappointment and
Speaker:frustration. Yeah, I was here in the garden and
Speaker:it was morning and I remember reading something about lockdowns
Speaker:that were coming or something when it was still, everything was still
Speaker:quite fresh and like extremely overwhelming.
Speaker:It it's just like what I do.
Speaker:I write a song, like sometimes I
Speaker:write little songs for myself that I don't share.
Speaker:But it feels good.
Speaker:Like some people write on a diary,
Speaker:I'll write a song and.
Speaker:I think at some point there was a
Speaker:fuck it moment.
Speaker:Honestly that was just a because
Speaker:I've always been this person like big mouth saying what I feel.
Speaker:But maybe among friends like you guys know me as sometimes they say
Speaker:the thing that maybe you shouldn't say but I say it and but you know
Speaker:I have a good heart then I don't really mean it or stuff like that.
Speaker:But I wasn't.
Speaker:I was still coming from a place of
Speaker:OK like my social media presence was maybe more politically
Speaker:correct. And I was feeling this inner
Speaker:conflict of who I thought I was supposed to show up as given some
Speaker:of the stuff that I sing about like songs, like be a friend, what
Speaker:we need is love.
Speaker:And then on the other side, like
Speaker:wanting to start a revolution and like feeling so much anger.
Speaker:So I think at some point I just couldn't.
Speaker:The two couldn't coexist in either or manner, and there was just
Speaker:like, fuck, I'm just going to say it.
Speaker:Because it did feel like the world was going to shit anyway.
Speaker:I was like, if I'm gonna like, if this is it, at least I'm gonna let
Speaker:people know how I feel and I think initially.
Speaker:Very bad reactions lost.
Speaker:A bunch of followers still have
Speaker:friends who don't speak to me or they have changed their opinion
Speaker:like I'm talking old friends we know we have one in common and
Speaker:other friends from university that just like, no i'm not talking to
Speaker:you anymore, but then.
Speaker:And I felt a lot of support.
Speaker:In of coming honestly from so many places around the world because
Speaker:everybody was kind of going through the same, a lot of people
Speaker:simply saying, yo, you are voicing what I feel.
Speaker:Thank you or it's good to feel like I'm not alone in this.
Speaker:I thought I was crazy.
Speaker:And this little online community
Speaker:started coming together, especially on Instagram where the
Speaker:seven, what I call the COVID nineteens, those seven videos more
Speaker:to a different degree, all kind of went viral.
Speaker:And there's, I don't know how many hundreds if not thousands of
Speaker:comments. And they're all like beautiful,
Speaker:supporting people. It isn't like, hey, yeah, we
Speaker:gotta, like, fuck these people.
Speaker:It's more like, wow, it's good to
Speaker:know that I'm not crazy and that some people also feel the way I
Speaker:do. And if nothing else, thank you
Speaker:for, like, making me laugh about something that up until yesterday
Speaker:was, you know, making me cry kind of thing.
Speaker:And so I think it started with that fucking moment also because.
Speaker:I do I do often reflect on like.
Speaker:How do I use this?
Speaker:And this platform, whether it's Instagram or the fact that, you
Speaker:know, I sing and people listen, that's a huge privilege, you know,
Speaker:like how, what am I saying? How am I using that?
Speaker:And at the time it felt like there was nothing else that seemed more
Speaker:relevant or alive than to sing about that about you know, freedom
Speaker:and responsibility and corruption and all felt very alive.
Speaker:So it started with the fucking moment, but then feeling like,
Speaker:wow, this is like, this is going around and a lot of people are
Speaker:feeling it. And so if I can keep writing
Speaker:songs. Coming from what I honestly feel,
Speaker:but they can, you know, make somewhat somebody's day a little
Speaker:bit better or lighter than for sure I'm gonna do that.
Speaker:So I did that for a while.
Speaker:I don't know if they'll answer.
Speaker:Answer the questions.
Speaker:Well, it's interesting because, so
Speaker:I have, as you know, this podcast is kind of new at the time of it's
Speaker:not even officially out on any platforms yet.
Speaker:I'm just, I'm recording and live streaming a bunch of episodes
Speaker:before I start releasing them onto the podcasting net platforms.
Speaker:And one of the other people I chatted with was this guy Pete
Speaker:Evans and he, I mean I won't go into detail, but for folks
Speaker:listening, definitely go and listen to that episode when it
Speaker:comes out like it's what that guy went through.
Speaker:I mean from millions of followers and I'm saying.
Speaker:Dollars, it's not about the followers but his entire career of
Speaker:that he built up over so many years that he had a huge community
Speaker:on Facebook, Instagram.
Speaker:He was one of the most well known,
Speaker:sort of celebrities I guess in Australia.
Speaker:And they he they crushed him because he just kept speaking his
Speaker:truth and he said something to me about.
Speaker:He was like, he's like, I kept waiting for the like Rage Against
Speaker:the machines and the you know like the those kind of bands.
Speaker:Waiting for the big bands who've always been about like, you know,
Speaker:fuck the guy.
Speaker:Like, not fuck the government, but
Speaker:yes, fuck the government for what they're doing.
Speaker:Like kind of fuck the government.
Speaker:Like they if the government wasn't
Speaker:doing shit that they're doing, then we wouldn't say fuck the
Speaker:government, but they are so and I just and he's like, I kept waiting
Speaker:and nothing and then he's like, and then I heard your poem talking
Speaker:to me and then it's like I heard these other musicians coming
Speaker:through and I was thinking about you and he was telling me that I
Speaker:may have even said your name, but just like.
Speaker:And he said he's like, I was initially surprised.
Speaker:And then he said, but I thought, then I thought, well, maybe that's
Speaker:the way it has to be is like coming rising up from the
Speaker:underground. Is like, and that's also the word
Speaker:radical, the origins of the word radical means that which rises
Speaker:from the root.
Speaker:And so to really be radical is to
Speaker:be fucking rooted.
Speaker:And that's important.
Speaker:So for those of us who've always been to me, it was like the final
Speaker:invitation to just, OK, either I'm going to keep pretending that I
Speaker:don't see something off here, or I'm going to just surrender to
Speaker:whatever unfolds and I'm going to speak my truth.
Speaker:And that's like, I think that's the end.
Speaker:But we that's the whole thing of like, this time is the invitation.
Speaker:To really like the coronation, corona, the coronation.
Speaker:And I think that's an important thing to remember.
Speaker:So Alexandra is saying, i love your song.
Speaker:I am spiritual.
Speaker:Can you play it?
Speaker:Do you feel like you want to play that song?
Speaker:Yeah, with pleasure.
Speaker:I just wanted to say a couple
Speaker:things in response to what you just shared, because it's a big
Speaker:one. I did something similar.
Speaker:I felt very similarly to this guy was named Paul.
Speaker:He said Pete Evans.
Speaker:Peter, pete and I did a post
Speaker:calling out the musicians that I've been listening to for many
Speaker:years that I've looked up to for many years.
Speaker:Yeah, a lot of these, like, yeah, we're the revolutionaries.
Speaker:The warriors.
Speaker:This and this and this.
Speaker:And then I was like, wait, where are your songs?
Speaker:Where's, like, nothing? Absolutely nothing.
Speaker:So I did a post.
Speaker:I was like, where are you guys?
Speaker:And one of them? Got in touch with me privately.
Speaker:Out of maybe six or seven and she said thank you for, you know,
Speaker:calling me out, and we had a conversation and it was very
Speaker:inspiring because she said maybe now is the time that the new
Speaker:generation of. There's leaders and music or
Speaker:people that are speaking out.
Speaker:Maybe this is the time that they
Speaker:rise. You know, it's not.
Speaker:It's no longer about looking at those who have been kind of like.
Speaker:Clearing the way, in a sense, maybe that's this is not a time to
Speaker:follow. This is a time where you make your
Speaker:own path, and that led into a conversation that it was about the
Speaker:masculine and the role of the warrior.
Speaker:This is something that I've been feeling a lot recently that still
Speaker:today, but especially back in the day, there was, you know, the
Speaker:Warriors were real and they were peaceful and they, you know, you
Speaker:maintain the peace.
Speaker:But if an invader comes, like,
Speaker:we'll fuck you up, you know, we're protecting our family, we're
Speaker:protecting our land, we're protecting our resources.
Speaker:And that's something that I feel like we have lost.
Speaker:So obviously ideally we don't get into a position of that's the
Speaker:enemy and we cause if you make you know if you make some from someone
Speaker:the enemy that's already like you already lost in a way.
Speaker:But to have that spirit of this is not OK.
Speaker:This doesn't feel right and nobody else saying something.
Speaker:I guess I'm going to say something and see what happens and sometimes
Speaker:maybe nothing happens, but.
Speaker:Those two, the realizing.
Speaker:Ok, maybe now it's up to us, whoever us is, I guess, whoever is
Speaker:showing up and end the role of the warrior, which I'm still
Speaker:reflecting on, like how does a warrior, quote unquote show up in
Speaker:today's society with the tools that we have?
Speaker:Because obviously I'm not going out with the sword, although I
Speaker:might at some point.
Speaker:You never know.
Speaker:There's a guy with a tank and you're like, listen, do you know
Speaker:this sword? Have you seen my sword?
Speaker:Ok, someone asked for the spiritual song yeah earlier when I
Speaker:said I'm also apparently known as the kundalini guy.
Speaker:I'm not.
Speaker:I'm not claiming that name in any
Speaker:way, shape or form.
Speaker:But while I was on tour because of
Speaker:this song called because I'm spiritual, the chorus is kundalini
Speaker:and so some people recognize me as like, are you the kundalini guy?
Speaker:And then I would say, yeah, my name is Roma.
Speaker:And then some would say, yeah, this is my friend Decardo.
Speaker:And then it's just complete.
Speaker:Confusion as the my the real
Speaker:identity. Ok, so if you're listening, no
Speaker:that this song was not written about you, so you should not take
Speaker:it personally. I say.
Speaker:I usually say this is a song that I wrote to make fun of me and my
Speaker:friends, but mostly my friends.
Speaker:Alright, headphones are coming
Speaker:off. Namaste, brothers and sisters.
Speaker:I'm glad you gathered.
Speaker:Here are wrote a little song to
Speaker:sing the things that I hardly ever see.
Speaker:I used to be like you, just a fool in the 3D Until one day I woke up
Speaker:claiming I'm a star seed.
Speaker:So now I'm a coach, I'm a healer,
Speaker:I'm an indigo child.
Speaker:Technique pictures by a waterfall
Speaker:and think that.
Speaker:Wild, my favorite word is secret
Speaker:and I use it all the time because it's really good for business.
Speaker:Never said I'm always high because I'm spiritual and loving, like the
Speaker:language that I speak.
Speaker:I refuse to face reality.
Speaker:I'm tripping once a week because I'm speaking with drew, stressing
Speaker:as I burn a little stage.
Speaker:I'm have to lose.
Speaker:You know, I've been a golden cage.
Speaker:Kundalini kundalini.
Speaker:You see, I love to meditate, but only when somebody's looking.
Speaker:I wouldn't wanna waste the chance to get another book and see my
Speaker:coping mechanism is the smiling powered through all this shit I
Speaker:should be working on.
Speaker:Because that's for holy people.
Speaker:Do well realign your chakras if your life is getting hard.
Speaker:I'm sending love and blessings now.
Speaker:Please wrap your credit card.
Speaker:I don't deal with human drama.
Speaker:I live in the fifth.
Speaker:Dimension but the truth is, I'm
Speaker:just craving your attention.
Speaker:Gazzam spiritual love and light
Speaker:the language that I speak.
Speaker:I refuse to face reality and truth
Speaker:for once a week as I'm spiritual, stressing as a burn, a little
Speaker:sage. I'm have to lose, you know, having
Speaker:a golden cage nalini kundalini.
Speaker:Gina gonda.
Speaker:That he needed.
Speaker:And my call it intuition, but it's
Speaker:just another thought.
Speaker:I take no responsibility.
Speaker:It's all the planets fall.
Speaker:So where Mercury's in Gatorade?
Speaker:I'm gonna be a bitch.
Speaker:I put flowers in my lemonade and
Speaker:call myself, for which I gave myself a name that I don't even
Speaker:understand. I'm really good at nothing, but I
Speaker:own a conscious brand.
Speaker:See, I'm consciously designed.
Speaker:As the young constantly bless that and I'll make sure the people
Speaker:know. Have you even seen my Instagram?
Speaker:I'm always in the focus.
Speaker:I'm spiritual love and like the
Speaker:language that I speak.
Speaker:I refuse to face reality and
Speaker:tripping once a week as I'm spiritual stressing as a burn, a
Speaker:little sage. I'm have to lose, you know, happy
Speaker:in a golden cage lady daddy? Kundali, Nikki.
Speaker:Kali guided.
Speaker:Without kundalini, nothing against
Speaker:Kundalini is just people are silly and I like to write silly songs.
Speaker:You're that tune, bro.
Speaker:Did honestly while I was on.
Speaker:While we were on tour and I played the song every time and every time
Speaker:I was like, this is a better idea.
Speaker:This is a better idea.
Speaker:I shouldn't do this because we've been playing this like, beautiful,
Speaker:like yoga studios, retreat centers with like these, you know,
Speaker:beautiful people in this, like, why not always?
Speaker:But like it's definitely the kind of place where it could go either
Speaker:way. It could go, oh, that's a funny
Speaker:song or like, people leaving.
Speaker:Ohh they never you never heard
Speaker:from again the culture which is you.
Speaker:Never get invited.
Speaker:Yeah, they tear my membership
Speaker:sure. Man, that is good.
Speaker:I you know, but it's to me that song is like a lot of your songs,
Speaker:but that's like the perfect representation of your one of the
Speaker:archetypes that you do so well, which is the jester.
Speaker:And I don't know if anyone watch it.
Speaker:Do you do you relate to that at all?
Speaker:Is that something that you feel for yourself?
Speaker:Definitely i love that like cheeky little bit.
Speaker:Like I'm gonna say, yeah, i i'm the same in like I was going to
Speaker:say real life, like not when I'm writing songs like that is
Speaker:something that I enjoy.
Speaker:Man, that song is brilliant.
Speaker:It is so on point.
Speaker:It's terrible.
Speaker:Like I can think of so many examples and in and like I look at
Speaker:my own life, like the times where.
Speaker:It's amazing.
Speaker:It's like the perfect mirror to either get very serious and go, Oh
Speaker:well, that's terrible.
Speaker:I can't.
Speaker:No, that's not.
Speaker:Or to go.
Speaker:Hey, where is that? Where's that talking to me?
Speaker:That's fantastic.
Speaker:Yeah, there's a I actually this
Speaker:is. Probably one of the first songs I
Speaker:want to record like properly and put it out there.
Speaker:And because yeah, it's also funny because if I sing it.
Speaker:Like whenever I performed it.
Speaker:Nobody got upset, but not because.
Speaker:I'm sure somebody got upset, but because you can't say that you got
Speaker:upset because then it kind of shows that.
Speaker:You know, like, oh, then I'm talking about you.
Speaker:So there's like, you just feel this, like, every now and then.
Speaker:Like, you look at someone, like their jaw is low, tense, but
Speaker:they're like trying to.
Speaker:But yeah, if, like, the point is
Speaker:if we can't laugh about ourselves and make fun of ourselves a little
Speaker:bit, then we're kind of missing the point.
Speaker:Mate, definitely so talking about just missing the point, I'm
Speaker:curious to hear that story around the car and the car papers when
Speaker:you were in California.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah. That's another good
Speaker:one I had bought.
Speaker:This car from a friend.
Speaker:It was a 1994 Red Volvo station wagon, and I drove that car for, I
Speaker:think, about three months.
Speaker:And it was towards the end of my
Speaker:journey in California.
Speaker:And a friend said, I'm gonna buy
Speaker:it from you.
Speaker:I was like, great, amazing.
Speaker:He said, do you have the papers? I said, of course they're in the
Speaker:glove box and a little, like leather booklet.
Speaker:You know, there's like nice chunky with all the papers.
Speaker:And at this point I'm in Joshua Tree, california, which is pretty
Speaker:much the desert.
Speaker:So I go in the car, I open the
Speaker:glove box and the this leathery thing, there's like booklet.
Speaker:What would you call it? Like a like a yeah sleeve yeah
Speaker:yeah, something like that, yeah.
Speaker:Say like a sleep wasn't there.
Speaker:I'm like, oh shit.
Speaker:Because i remember seeing that,
Speaker:but I don't.
Speaker:I did.
Speaker:I don't remember, like, touching it or taking it out.
Speaker:I'm like, whoa.
Speaker:Where did I lose it?
Speaker:There's no papers in my car.
Speaker:I'm in the desert I'm supposed to
Speaker:drive to. You know the friend who wants to
Speaker:buy it? So I basically i looked for these
Speaker:papers for this, for the sleeve for about 2 days.
Speaker:All the I call friends like, hey, did I leave it at your house?
Speaker:Like where could I possibly have left it?
Speaker:I was really stressing out and I was yeah, like not having a good
Speaker:time and my friend.
Speaker:He said if you check the glove
Speaker:box, I was like, dude, that's like the first place, like, come on, I
Speaker:was a little irritated.
Speaker:I was like, I'm not stupid.
Speaker:Turns out it turns out I am second.
Speaker:As I said, alright, fine, I'm gonna check the glove box again.
Speaker:This time I opened the glove box and I noticed just what looked
Speaker:like just some like scrap paper.
Speaker:Sounds like maybe two pieces of
Speaker:paper or three, just kind of like that in the glove box.
Speaker:I was like, what is that? Turns out those were the papers I
Speaker:had been looking for the whole time, but because I was so
Speaker:convinced that they were in this like nice leathery sleeve which
Speaker:existed except I forgot it was from the previous card.
Speaker:Like it was never in that car.
Speaker:Like another car that I had at
Speaker:some point in the past had that leathery sleep.
Speaker:And so i remember laughing like a like a fool at the fact that I had
Speaker:made my life miserable because what I needed.
Speaker:I thought would come in this other shape, this other form, so I
Speaker:literally didn't see that what I was looking for was right there,
Speaker:except it looked a little different.
Speaker:Wasn't as fancy as the leather actually.
Speaker:It was just some scrap paper.
Speaker:But it is what I needed.
Speaker:And I remember the thought while I was laughing and my friend came
Speaker:was like, why are you laughing? Like an idiot.
Speaker:By yourself, by your, guard, because I remember thinking, I
Speaker:wonder how many other areas in my life.
Speaker:How many other things I'm missing out on?
Speaker:Because I can't see them because I think they're supposed to feel.
Speaker:In a different way, or they're gonna show up in a different way,
Speaker:or that they're gonna.
Speaker:And it was a.
Speaker:Yeah, it was a big moment for me because it you know, it's just
Speaker:some scrap paper and it's just some documents, but sometimes a
Speaker:little lesson that you can apply to so many other things.
Speaker:And so it kind of inspired me to like, look again, whatever I think
Speaker:I'm missing.
Speaker:Like, look again, because maybe
Speaker:you're not missing it at all.
Speaker:You're just so stuck on the idea
Speaker:that. It will be something else, which,
Speaker:especially at the time I was in California, three months
Speaker:traveling, there were many talks around spirituality.
Speaker:And what like enlightenment, this huge word, enlightenment.
Speaker:And was like and you get this idea, especially in the beginning
Speaker:of a journey of a some sort of spiritual journey or that, you
Speaker:know, enlightenment is gonna be like, I'm gonna be blowing like
Speaker:the sun and I'm gonna be floating, you know, 3 feet from the ground.
Speaker:And I'm always going to be compassionate and equanimous and
Speaker:animals are gonna come to me and I'm always gonna be happy.
Speaker:Which is bullshit like that does not what happens at.
Speaker:All what wait? Wait, I mean, it might.
Speaker:It might if you do it, if you're if your third eye is really open,
Speaker:you might. That squeezy that third.
Speaker:Yeah, so it's just it was just simplified a lot of things that
Speaker:maybe my head were like, oh, made a big deal out of.
Speaker:Well, to me it ties into what you were saying earlier about staying
Speaker:open to life that you want in that moment, that you had a specific
Speaker:idea of how life needed to look for you.
Speaker:Move forward.
Speaker:And so you'd actually close the
Speaker:door on any other option and so you literally couldn't see the
Speaker:other option that was.
Speaker:I mean, it's an amazing story.
Speaker:It's so simple.
Speaker:It's so beautiful.
Speaker:Have you ever seen there's a, there's a video that anybody who's
Speaker:listening to this now where at some point in the future shout out
Speaker:to future people listening to this and there's a video you can find
Speaker:on YouTube. I think it's like awareness test
Speaker:or something like that.
Speaker:And I don't have you ever seen it.
Speaker:It's just the video and the video.
Speaker:There's a team, three people and I
Speaker:have a basketball and the video says, well, fuck, I don't want to
Speaker:give it away now, but.
Speaker:Anyway, don't give it away.
Speaker:I'm keen to it.
Speaker:I'll put it in the show.
Speaker:But it's.
Speaker:Ok, I don't wanna give it away.
Speaker:It's a.
Speaker:It's a tiny example.
Speaker:This shows you that if you are not paying attention to something you
Speaker:won't, you physically won't see it.
Speaker:And I don't want to say too much, and conversely, if you are open to
Speaker:seeing something and if you are paying attention, Ramdas says.
Speaker:If you go, if you drive through a town and you're hungry, all you're
Speaker:gonna see is places to eat.
Speaker:But if you go through it down and
Speaker:you're sleepy, then you're going to see hotels.
Speaker:So it's the same town.
Speaker:But you're gonna be noticing
Speaker:different things depending on what you think you need.
Speaker:I love that.
Speaker:I love her ramdas it's like the
Speaker:story you just told about the glove compartment.
Speaker:It's like those kind of simple.
Speaker:It's such a simple story.
Speaker:It's not it's not complicated, it's not confusing.
Speaker:It makes sense.
Speaker:It's like if you look.
Speaker:Yes, of course.
Speaker:This totally makes sense when you
Speaker:hear the term.
Speaker:We are already free.
Speaker:What is that? What is that for you?
Speaker:What comes up? That's a. That's a good one.
Speaker:That should be like.
Speaker:You should make like posters.
Speaker:People can just hang in their homes and we are already free.
Speaker:Or two.
Speaker:It's like 2 parallel tracks.
Speaker:I guess it's two different planes of understanding this.
Speaker:1 guess the.
Speaker:More umm.
Speaker:Abstract and more spiritual.
Speaker:We are already free.
Speaker:I just wrote a song the other day called you already know and the
Speaker:idea is i was thinking of all the things that sometimes people do,
Speaker:sometimes really silly things to try and find a sense of purpose or
Speaker:meaning or some peace.
Speaker:And we'll, you know, go to the
Speaker:Himalayas or we'll follow this guru, or we'll read all these
Speaker:books or we're only, you know, eat crystals on full moon or whatever
Speaker:it is. And we complicate things immensely
Speaker:for ourselves, because really, we are already free.
Speaker:And every great teacher that I've been listening to and that I've
Speaker:been trying to learn from, they all point back to ourselves.
Speaker:Whether it's Jesus saying the Kingdom of heaven is within you,
Speaker:or is Ramana Maharshi saying, you know, God guru himself are one,
Speaker:you are the self.
Speaker:It's always like it's simple, it's
Speaker:here. And it's now you don't have to go
Speaker:out and find it.
Speaker:And Sam, like I loved he had few
Speaker:little stories that he would share during his set on tour and he
Speaker:would say like if you if you can grasp it.
Speaker:Then it's still something outside of you that you can lose, but
Speaker:that's not what we're talking about.
Speaker:That is already and.
Speaker:If you quiet your mind and open
Speaker:your heart, you will find all you need was inside from the start.
Speaker:That's part of the song that I just wrote, so we already free
Speaker:reminds me that.
Speaker:The eye.
Speaker:That I am beyond this awesome buddy, that I buddy that I get to
Speaker:carry around the world and do life with.
Speaker:There's something beyond that it is already free and that is the
Speaker:more pure. And yeah part of me the part that
Speaker:doesn't that doesn't that doesn't go, that doesn't change, that
Speaker:doesn't leave and then the other the more like physical practical
Speaker:everyday thing we were talking about you know governments and
Speaker:lockdowns and laws and restrictions and.
Speaker:You know the people in power.
Speaker:But like, no, that is like.
Speaker:We're all already free.
Speaker:We'll hold the power we like when
Speaker:we go. In the streets or when we're, you
Speaker:know, at a rally or and we writing songs to protest against some sort
Speaker:of injustice that we perceive or, you know, some rights being taken
Speaker:away, some freedoms being taken away.
Speaker:And this is the more the part of me that.
Speaker:Yeah, my parents don't really understand.
Speaker:They're like anarchists, but anarchists is not someone who
Speaker:wants to just fuck shit up.
Speaker:Anarchists is someone who doesn't
Speaker:necessarily believe that we need an outside third party government
Speaker:of old people that live a life that is completely different from
Speaker:the life that I live.
Speaker:How do you get to make the calls
Speaker:as to what I can or cannot do when we look at the world, we don't see
Speaker:the same thing, we don't live by the same values.
Speaker:We don't.
Speaker:So in that sense that sovereignty
Speaker:of I get to make the calls and obviously like I want to live in
Speaker:society, i I'm glad that there is some type of structure to keep
Speaker:things going, but the moment that it becomes the authority.
Speaker:That I've never agreed to, that you think you have over me to
Speaker:limit how I get to express myself, where I get to go, who I get to
Speaker:be. That's too much.
Speaker:And I think something that many of us have remembered.
Speaker:During this time, during the last two years, is that sovereignty?
Speaker:Is that we're already free? Maybe we're taking it for granted
Speaker:before, but the moment it gets taken away, you're like, what was
Speaker:going on? And if nothing else, I hope that's
Speaker:something that comes from, yeah, the last two years that people
Speaker:realize, hey, we don't, we don't have to do things the way we've
Speaker:been doing things because it doesn't seem to be working.
Speaker:And if it did, it doesn't work anymore and it doesn't align with.
Speaker:The world that we want to live in and the reality that we want to
Speaker:create and yeah, the values that we want to live by and the and
Speaker:what we want to bring forth.
Speaker:It's an old.
Speaker:Way and yeah, maybe it helped to carry on society for a while, but
Speaker:no more and.
Speaker:Yeah, something like that.
Speaker:Yeah, beautiful. It's an interesting i i'm, I think a lot
Speaker:about. It's like a combination of the two
Speaker:things you've just been speaking about that is on one side.
Speaker:We are infinite and so there's nothing.
Speaker:The freedom that we have is innate.
Speaker:There's no way that can be removed.
Speaker:And on the other side we do have a physical body right now that has
Speaker:external forces that are doing their very best to keep us.
Speaker:In a certain track, and if we step out of that track, there's
Speaker:challenges and what I'm wanting to or what I'm keep thinking about
Speaker:and like asking to get the lessons that will allow me to embody that
Speaker:more, is to remember that the body is that I don't need to defend the
Speaker:body. Like if I if my truth means that I
Speaker:need to put my body on the line, put myself on the line.
Speaker:That is something that is worth doing in the same way that Gandhi
Speaker:would walk into a wall of police who he knew they were going to
Speaker:beat the crap out of him and he did it anyway.
Speaker:There's some kind of a courage there that I don't feel like I yet
Speaker:have in me.
Speaker:It's like because even speaking my
Speaker:truth, writing these poems, like having this podcast, chatting with
Speaker:you, these things, I don't have a direct fear that I'm going to get
Speaker:physically, like, imprisoned for this or something like that.
Speaker:Whereas there, it's like it's that combination of realizing I am
Speaker:spirit and I am also here now and I am free here now.
Speaker:Even if they put me in jail or beat the crap out of me or kill
Speaker:me, I'm still free.
Speaker:And there's like a piece in that
Speaker:that's really I'm.
Speaker:And wanting to develop that
Speaker:courage basically. Yeah, I feel you.
Speaker:There's a I was mentioning Ramdas earlier and part of the work that
Speaker:he did. For decades, he would work with
Speaker:people in prison and jail umm.
Speaker:And because he would say I'm in
Speaker:the business of freedom, I'm not in the business of joy.
Speaker:I'm not here to, you know, just make you happy.
Speaker:I'm here to help you get free.
Speaker:And what better time?
Speaker:Then when you have to serve time and time is all you have.
Speaker:And there's some amazing stories which to think you could elected
Speaker:in a book of some of these inmates that through meditation, through
Speaker:talks, through just like sitting with these teachings and you know
Speaker:some guidance which like I can't even imagine trying to do
Speaker:something like that, but some of these people that.
Speaker:Their life turned around completely simply from that
Speaker:realization, which I get glimpses on of every now and again.
Speaker:And when I do get those glimpses, sometimes I imagine like fuck
Speaker:imagine living my whole life from this perspective of I am free and
Speaker:No Fear and no.
Speaker:Yeah, just the purest expression
Speaker:of who I am without.
Speaker:Limitations and mind made stories.
Speaker:It's a good place to be.
Speaker:Yeah, I love that.
Speaker:It's funny, I actually, when I did Vipassana years ago though, the 10
Speaker:day silent meditation retreat, it's the only one I've done.
Speaker:And it was in 2010 I think.
Speaker:And one of the guys there was a
Speaker:young dude. He must have been 18 years old and
Speaker:he didn't know.
Speaker:He was like, not sure that when he
Speaker:came out if he was going to go to prison or not because he had been
Speaker:caught sending himself magic mushrooms from Amsterdam to the
Speaker:UK. And I mean, just the fact that
Speaker:it's like plants, man, and it's someone dealing with their own
Speaker:like, whatever, if you want to do that.
Speaker:Of consciousness, anyway, that's a whole different story.
Speaker:But he said he's like, I'm doing vipassana because if I go to
Speaker:prison, I'll have something to do while I'm there.
Speaker:Like I'll be able to practice.
Speaker:Like I'll have this practice that
Speaker:I could take with me pretty i mean, how's that for a responsible
Speaker:action for a youngster? He's like, I don't know, like, at
Speaker:this point, it's out of my control.
Speaker:I may go to prison, I may not, but I'm doing what I can to make sure
Speaker:I'm still empowered when I am in prison, if that's what happens,
Speaker:that's pretty that's pretty rad.
Speaker:That's badass, yeah, that's really
Speaker:bad. That's huge.
Speaker:Yeah, yeah. Well, I'm curious to know there's a anything just in
Speaker:the last week.
Speaker:Someone asked me this question
Speaker:recently and I was like, this is such a nice question.
Speaker:But what is something that you've learned in the last week,
Speaker:something new that you didn't know before?
Speaker:Well, apparently that there are carnivorous butterflies.
Speaker:Nate Nathan actually just told me we connected like a few minutes
Speaker:before we started this to try things out.
Speaker:And I don't know how we got to talk about carnivorous
Speaker:butterflies. No, I don't want to talk about
Speaker:that. That's disturbing.
Speaker:Something that I learned in the past week, I think something it's
Speaker:not just the last week.
Speaker:But the last.
Speaker:Few weeks, let's say, but it's been definitely alive the last
Speaker:week. I feel like it's i'm integrating
Speaker:it more umm.
Speaker:How the mind will try to come up
Speaker:with problems even if there are no problems?
Speaker:The mind.
Speaker:Coming from, yeah, two months of
Speaker:touring around Costa Rica, which were honestly two of the best
Speaker:months of my life where everything.
Speaker:It's not like everything went perfect, but even when things were
Speaker:not going perfect, it's like staying open to life and somehow
Speaker:things working out and feeling like really supported and provided
Speaker:for and just the last year of my life.
Speaker:But in the last month that I've come back and I've been just here
Speaker:in this little town, like not a lot of friends.
Speaker:So I have a lot of time to sit with myself and think back to
Speaker:these experiences. And I've noticed how I've come
Speaker:from this, like high, like, Wow, life is amazing.
Speaker:I feel so like natural high.
Speaker:And then.
Speaker:Nothing has happened.
Speaker:Nothing wrong has happened,
Speaker:nothing bad has happened, but the mind was like try to creep back
Speaker:in. With like, hey yeah, but how are
Speaker:you gonna make that happen? Ohh yeah, but you think whatever
Speaker:story the mind has and so I've been really sitting with.
Speaker:There's this book that I read that I recommend to anybody is called.
Speaker:Mystic path to cosmic powers by Vernon Howard, which sounds like a
Speaker:Super Woo title, but is honestly one of the most like, straight to
Speaker:the point practical books that I've ever read, and one of the
Speaker:things that he says.
Speaker:That I was actually applying last
Speaker:night. Funny enough, for a personal
Speaker:situation, he says.
Speaker:Facts before feelings put facts
Speaker:before feelings. It's so easy.
Speaker:As humans we have this like reactions, these like, oh, I'm
Speaker:feeling this like fear or doubt or insecurity.
Speaker:We make up these stories in our head, especially as we're relating
Speaker:to someone else.
Speaker:You say something, maybe I
Speaker:misinterpret it, maybe you don't express it in a, you know, best
Speaker:way. But then I create a story in my
Speaker:mind and then I assume that this story.
Speaker:Is real.
Speaker:And then I will have a reaction.
Speaker:And now I'm mad at you, so facts before feelings.
Speaker:When my mind tries to come up with these like little stories of, and
Speaker:they're usually stories around unworthiness or stories around,
Speaker:there's something that you should be worrying about right now.
Speaker:Something's gonna go bad.
Speaker:And then.
Speaker:I'm really learning.
Speaker:Not just from my personal
Speaker:experience of looking back and be like, hey, even when stuff seemed
Speaker:like it was completely falling apart, it was still coming
Speaker:together like, what are you worrying about?
Speaker:So I'm learning to.
Speaker:Have that like split second where
Speaker:I can kind of step out of that initial tornado.
Speaker:That's like building up in my brain.
Speaker:And be like no facts.
Speaker:What are the facts?
Speaker:Right now you are OK.
Speaker:Right now you are fine.
Speaker:Right now, like nothing bad has happened, don't create it in your
Speaker:mind, especially knowing the power that the mind has to then create
Speaker:your own reality.
Speaker:If I think that something bad is
Speaker:about to happen, chances are something bad will happen at some
Speaker:point. So to catch that moment and facts
Speaker:before feelings, to recognize that.
Speaker:Even when I thought there was something to worry about.
Speaker:There wasn't necessarily and in the moment, in the present.
Speaker:If there is something that has to be addressed, then I can address
Speaker:that. If there's something that is like,
Speaker:OK, this is a problem, then cool, let's talk about it.
Speaker:But otherwise, like if I think about how much time I've spent in
Speaker:the past. Worrying in my mind about shit
Speaker:that hadn't even happened yet.
Speaker:Because when I was 14, that girl
Speaker:broke up with me and cheated on me.
Speaker:And then, you know, 19 years later I realized, wait, what I'm feeling
Speaker:now. This is just a silly example, but
Speaker:like realizing that we may still be carrying stuff that's old and
Speaker:doesn't serve us and like, based on past experiences.
Speaker:Then I, you know, I have this belief that I am not worthy of
Speaker:attention or love or success or money or whatever it is.
Speaker:And most of them, if not all of them, let's say most of them are
Speaker:stories in our heads.
Speaker:So learning to look at it and see
Speaker:it for what it is, put facts before feelings.
Speaker:So then if I do have a reaction to it or a response, I would say
Speaker:rather than a reaction.
Speaker:And the last few days there have
Speaker:been situations where it would have been easy.
Speaker:They should be like, i'm out or no, or I'm gonna worry now or let
Speaker:me yeah, let me stress about this at night before I go to sleep as
Speaker:opposed to like, no, like you're OK and if there's something that
Speaker:needs to be.
Speaker:And looked at and resolved or
Speaker:figured out and you can do that, but otherwise don't.
Speaker:Yeah, don't make your life harder than what it needs to be nice and
Speaker:then Jonas asks.
Speaker:I hope I've said your name alright
Speaker:there, Yonas says.
Speaker:How do you manifest the reality
Speaker:you want to live in? Maybe a question to both of us.
Speaker:How do you manifest the reality you want to live in?
Speaker:Do I do? You want to.
Speaker:I mean, I would, I would, but I am in no way shape or form an expert
Speaker:in like at all.
Speaker:Like I would point you to people
Speaker:that clearly know more about.
Speaker:This than me, one of them being
Speaker:Doctor Wayne Dyer, I find is very good.
Speaker:D3 has really good little videos about manifestation and Doctor Joe
Speaker:Dispensa. I only read one book I know I've
Speaker:heard. Not controversial.
Speaker:Like some people love him, so people don't really like him, but
Speaker:I've read one book called becoming Supernatural and that was.
Speaker:It was huge in understanding just how like the brain works and how
Speaker:that like really just practical things and things that are
Speaker:actually happening in your body.
Speaker:Chemically, physically, then have
Speaker:an impact on how you perceive your reality.
Speaker:In my experience, I really just.
Speaker:i imagine.
Speaker:Whatever I want.
Speaker:And then I.
Speaker:Start feeling the feelings that I would feel if I already had that.
Speaker:And these are these gratitude, excitement, joy.
Speaker:And then I try to stay in that place, vibrationally.
Speaker:In order to rather than chase chasing something, i'm becoming
Speaker:what? Jody Spencer says.
Speaker:I'm becoming a magnet.
Speaker:Or I'm becoming a magnet to my
Speaker:future. And so if you, and these are
Speaker:things that talking about it feels weird until then you see like,
Speaker:fuck, that actually happened.
Speaker:Like, I can't believe this is
Speaker:actually like the power that we hold is massive and we don't
Speaker:really understand it.
Speaker:I don't really understand it.
Speaker:See, I would say simply just try it out, even just as an
Speaker:experiment, sit maybe in the morning for five minutes and just
Speaker:imagine whatever it is that you want with No Fear.
Speaker:And then, yeah, feel that and say thank you for that and plant this
Speaker:little seed because then how things actually work, the
Speaker:mechanisms, I have no idea.
Speaker:But I know that doing that,
Speaker:conscious first step of seeing it and then starting to act in a way,
Speaker:whether it's something you want to change about yourself, a situation
Speaker:you want to attract.
Speaker:You start living that.
Speaker:As if it was already present or feeling as if that was already
Speaker:happening. And then honestly, life does the
Speaker:rest of the magic.
Speaker:I don't know how it works, but it
Speaker:seems to work.
Speaker:Beautifully said. Yeah I find for
Speaker:me the and again i echo Ricardo.
Speaker:Well actually I'm completely
Speaker:enlightened. You should definitely listen to me
Speaker:and here's the tears by my 12 week course that will let's discount it
Speaker:now and only 10000 thousand dollars nine thousand nine hundred
Speaker:ninety nine.
Speaker:But anyway the so from my side
Speaker:also like i feel like life is blessed me in many ways.
Speaker:Like i think that when things shift for me is when I stop
Speaker:thinking too much.
Speaker:Myself and I think more of how can
Speaker:I help just as far as manifesting goes like the reality I want to
Speaker:live in is the one where people get what they need.
Speaker:And so if I can be a part of that like being like where can I serve?
Speaker:Where is my, where does my passion align with what people need and
Speaker:then sort of like align myself to that.
Speaker:And then and another thing that I think we've got you touched on it,
Speaker:Ricardo, you talked about it is feeling the joy.
Speaker:So I focus more.
Speaker:I think like OK, i think I want
Speaker:this thing like for example, like I want to live.
Speaker:Life where I'm surfing three times a day or a week or whatever the
Speaker:story I have is or I want a house or I want whatever The thing is.
Speaker:And then I go into what is the feeling around that and actually
Speaker:let go of a connection or an attachment to the thing itself.
Speaker:Because if I can have the feeling, the joy, the peace, the excitement
Speaker:of fulfillment, the presence, the what, the health, the well-being
Speaker:the peace, the inner peace, if I, if that state, if I am embodying
Speaker:that eight it doesn't matter what The thing is that I have.
Speaker:It could be completely different to like you said.
Speaker:Like if you had just been like, I want the feeling of just like
Speaker:knowing that I can sell this car to my friend.
Speaker:What does that feel like? Like maybe that you would have
Speaker:been immediately found the car papers like.
Speaker:But anyway, for me that kind of feels less.
Speaker:I don't know, there's it feels more real to me that I'm focused
Speaker:more on a state of being rather than receiving some specific thing
Speaker:from the outside to make me feel a specific thing.
Speaker:It's like, well, if I could just get to the feeling through
Speaker:practice and then I do the same thing, I'll breathe.
Speaker:I usually do it at the end.
Speaker:So I'll as I start my morning
Speaker:practice I will think what is the intention and for me it's almost
Speaker:always abundance where because I've really struggled with
Speaker:scarcity, the feeling of scarcity in my life, even though
Speaker:practically on a real level.
Speaker:I've had an abundant life, but
Speaker:I've I constantly sabotaged that because of feelings of scarcity.
Speaker:And So what I'll do is, at the beginning of my practice, I'll
Speaker:sit, just set the intention, and even focus while setting the
Speaker:intention with a smile on my face.
Speaker:Like, just like, oh wow, I get to
Speaker:set an intention.
Speaker:What a gift.
Speaker:Like, that's a gift.
Speaker:I just get to sit here and set an
Speaker:intention. That's awesome, and then let it go
Speaker:and then do my practice breathwork meditation.
Speaker:And then right at the end.
Speaker:I will bring that.
Speaker:What will it feel like to be abundant, to be in a state of
Speaker:abundance? And then I take 3 deep, slow
Speaker:breaths into my belly, my chest, and I move the energy up into my
Speaker:head and I pause.
Speaker:And then as I breathe out, I
Speaker:really imagine that state I feeling of abundance or whatever
Speaker:it is, inner peace sometimes I do, or health or and I'll just imagine
Speaker:moving that through all the cells of my being and then out into my
Speaker:energy field and out into the world, just like, wow, that's sort
Speaker:of abundance.
Speaker:Feels like and just feel that.
Speaker:Feeling and yeah, so I think that for me that that's really like the
Speaker:key piece is the state is what's critical rather than the actual
Speaker:external thing. Yeah, the state for sure.
Speaker:I was remembering now.
Speaker:Because again, it may sound like
Speaker:Super Woo woo and what they're talking about, but honestly, like
Speaker:just in the last year and a half the stuff that has happened where
Speaker:then I looked back and I was like, holy shit, that's exactly what I
Speaker:was like before I even reconnected with the woman.
Speaker:That I that then took me quote unquote to Costa Rica before Costa
Speaker:Rica was even on the map.
Speaker:Part of my visualization was I
Speaker:would imagine myself on a stage playing for a lot of people and I
Speaker:would imagine playing with like the lyrical moments with you guys
Speaker:with Sam like and I would imagine the feeling of being like and I
Speaker:would like see the whole thing like a movie in my head.
Speaker:Like I'm on stage, the crowd's going crazy and then I say please
Speaker:give it up for my good friends and then you guys come out and it's
Speaker:just and some days I would get so into this.
Speaker:Vision that I would have tears like of joy of like my whole body
Speaker:would be like buzzing and I would actually feel like there were
Speaker:however many people like in just ecstatic that we were there.
Speaker:And then I would open my eyes, I would say thank you and I would
Speaker:like send out in the universe and then I would kind of forget about
Speaker:it. The letting go is a huge part.
Speaker:I will not think I was like alright that's done that's the and
Speaker:then I will go about my day and then and I did that for a while
Speaker:and then. I went on tour with sin.
Speaker:Somehow life conspired that me and him would be there at the same
Speaker:time and we could do this storm cause and I remember being there
Speaker:with him. And like every now and then, like,
Speaker:I would look at it would be singing together, I look over and
Speaker:I was like, this feels a lot like what I was imagining when I was
Speaker:home by myself in Italy on lockdown.
Speaker:I didn't make this happen until I've realized, whoa, this could
Speaker:actually totally happen.
Speaker:And then obviously you have to do
Speaker:your part, but you kind of meet life halfway, or life meets you
Speaker:halfway. In yeah, in magical ways that I
Speaker:don't understand, but it does work, I promise.
Speaker:Beautiful well, I think that's a beautiful note to end this on as
Speaker:just because I was gonna ask you the final question was gonna be
Speaker:like, what would you suggest? Maybe you want to fill it out more
Speaker:in a different direction, but what would you suggest to someone who's
Speaker:listening to this, who has realized that their life and the
Speaker:way that they are perceiving their world and the way they're
Speaker:experiencing their world isn't the way that they like it to be?
Speaker:What would you advise? What would you do in that
Speaker:situation to start shifting and transforming in the direction that
Speaker:you want to head? And you again, you may have
Speaker:answered that already, but just if there's anything else to add.
Speaker:For someone who's realizing that.
Speaker:Yeah, that there's that.
Speaker:There's more.
Speaker:That life is not what they
Speaker:thought. Well, I guess it's just to
Speaker:clarify, there's like someone who's sitting and see feels maybe
Speaker:isolated and overwhelmed, like they see the world is not OK right
Speaker:now. Like the financial systems, the
Speaker:monetary systems, the education systems, like the whole thing is
Speaker:kind of a farce and they want to, they want it to change.
Speaker:And now what? Right, i would say, well, first of
Speaker:all, you're not alone.
Speaker:You're definitely not alone.
Speaker:Sometimes, in this specific context, is just about.
Speaker:What is the I saw that little meme, something that said like
Speaker:you're your vibe attracts your tribe or something like that,
Speaker:which again sounds super cheesy, but it's true.
Speaker:And the people that see the world the way you do.
Speaker:The people that feel the way you do can't find you if they don't
Speaker:know that that's how you feel yeah.
Speaker:So I don't know exactly, but yeah, be more of yourself.
Speaker:And they might be scary, but, like, try.
Speaker:Because how would I know? Like, maybe I wanna invite you to
Speaker:watch a basketball game, but I don't know that you like
Speaker:basketball, you know? So let people know you're like
Speaker:basketball in this analogy.
Speaker:Something that helps me a lot is,
Speaker:to keep playing the three, kind of like.
Speaker:Foundations that I, or little mantras that I have in my own life
Speaker:is be a friend to yourself.
Speaker:Be a friend to others.
Speaker:Be a friend to the earth.
Speaker:Be it.
Speaker:But start being a friend with yourself.
Speaker:Don't be don't be so hard on yourself.
Speaker:Don't treat yourself the way you would treat a good friend.
Speaker:With that, compassion with that, understanding with that.
Speaker:Hey, like, it's OK, like maybe tomorrow we'll figure it out.
Speaker:Or don't be.
Speaker:Yeah, you don't need to be hard on
Speaker:yourself and be your friend.
Speaker:Number one.
Speaker:Keep playing.
Speaker:Keep playing is a huge one for me
Speaker:because not just like, for me.
Speaker:It's like, obviously keep playing
Speaker:music but. It brings an element of
Speaker:lightheartedness. You know, you could play in many
Speaker:ways, but to keep that.
Speaker:Yeah, that lightheartedness is
Speaker:part of your life because it's so easy to, like, be really serious
Speaker:and like obviously our world, our society forces us to, you know?
Speaker:You know, there's not a lot of time for play.
Speaker:And that's a shame.
Speaker:This should be time for play, so
Speaker:it could be a little thing, but definitely keep playing whatever
Speaker:happens. And then the last one that we have
Speaker:explored is stay open to life.
Speaker:Just I feel like those 3 umm.
Speaker:They can already bring a big shift and maybe it's not big at first,
Speaker:but the persistence that we spoke about.
Speaker:You know, sometimes if you change your trajectory 1 degree now, it's
Speaker:not gonna feel like it's a low, but over time you're gonna end up
Speaker:in a completely different place.
Speaker:And maybe that's where you wanted
Speaker:to end up all along.
Speaker:Well, thank you again brother.
Speaker:I will definitely be happily sharing this and for all those
Speaker:listening to this after it's come out, fantastic.
Speaker:And to all you who are watching live, be sure to check out Roaman
Speaker:music if you haven't already on the gram ROA MAN music.
Speaker:This dude is legendary.
Speaker:His songs.
Speaker:The only warning I will give you is that they will get deeply,
Speaker:deeply embedded in your psyche and you will be singing them for days
Speaker:and it'll be magnificent.
Speaker:But it's like, there's that term
Speaker:earworms. You think?
Speaker:It's like, I don't know who, what country uses that term, but it's
Speaker:like really they do.
Speaker:They crawl inside your brain and
Speaker:they're so good, man.
Speaker:So yeah, and i like that.
Speaker:There's like, if you're feeling like you're frustrated and you
Speaker:need to start on the whole, like, lockdowns and the chaos of what's
Speaker:been going on, start.
Speaker:There, but then definitely move on
Speaker:to. Spread on our side and the songs
Speaker:that I really like.
Speaker:Just a reminder of what we do
Speaker:want. I think that's also what we've
Speaker:been talking about is like we can only spend so much time focusing
Speaker:on what is wrong and what we don't want.
Speaker:And you said it earlier, paying attention, like where we pay
Speaker:attention, that's what we see.
Speaker:If you're hungry and you're
Speaker:driving through town, you see restaurants like that just makes
Speaker:total sense. So if you are hungry for a
Speaker:connected life of meaning, purpose, the remembrance that we
Speaker:are already free, community, like connection, the whole vibe, if
Speaker:that's what you want, then pay attention to that.
Speaker:Give your attention to that and you'll find it.
Speaker:It'll be there.
Speaker:So trusting that.
Speaker:And again, thank you, brother.
Speaker:It's a pleasure and an honour to
Speaker:collaborate and connect with you as always.
Speaker:And I don't know if there's any other last words you'd like, but
Speaker:otherwise, thank you again.
Speaker:Really appreciate.
Speaker:I just want to say thank you for putting this together and for
Speaker:creating this space for us to have this conversation and for putting
Speaker:yourself out there and having these type of conversations like
Speaker:we're already free.
Speaker:That's revolutionary in itself.
Speaker:So I just want to say I appreciate you and I hope this goes, this
Speaker:goes far and many people get to listen not just to this
Speaker:conversation, but to all the other ones you're going to have with the
Speaker:epic people you're going to have on your podcast.
Speaker:And I would just say, if anybody checks out my music and is feeling
Speaker:it and wants to get more, I've started sharing weekly unreleased
Speaker:new songs on my Patreon page.
Speaker:Every week I've just, there's a
Speaker:lot of loads of songs that are just kind of sitting in my in my
Speaker:brain drawer that I'm excited to start sharing.
Speaker:So that could be a place where, yeah, every week there's a new
Speaker:song and then you also get to support my music musical projects.
Speaker:God knows there are many, and it's a good place to connect.
Speaker:Thanks again so much to my friend Roaman for this beautiful
Speaker:conversation. We've spoken for years about how
Speaker:we should record our conversations.
Speaker:They often end up being so in depth and rambling.
Speaker:Sometimes they go for hours.
Speaker:So I'm really grateful that I get
Speaker:to offer just this little insight, this little hint into what a
Speaker:conversation between myself and this dear friend are like.
Speaker:The best place to find his music and support him is just go to the
Speaker:show notes podcast dot we are already free.
Speaker:Com podcast.
Speaker:We are already freecom and that
Speaker:way you'll find all his links linked there to his website, his
Speaker:Instagram, his Patreon, and you'll find out loads more about him.
Speaker:I've also put heaps of the things we talked about, like the books we
Speaker:talked about, the video of the basketball awareness test, which
Speaker:which Roaman was speaking to, which is amazing.
Speaker:I did it and it blew my freaking mind and a few of the quotes.
Speaker:And as I said, yeah, just kind of some of the cool magical stuff so
Speaker:I really invite you to take this opportunity to pause before you
Speaker:begin the next thing you're gonna jump into after this and kind of
Speaker:sit with what is it you would like to take away from this?
Speaker:Like what is the value? What have you found inside
Speaker:yourself that you didn't know you had?
Speaker:What is it that you'd like to develop more of?
Speaker:Or even what challenges come up in you?
Speaker:What emotions rise up, whether challenging or positive?
Speaker:Please let me know.
Speaker:You can also leave a voice note,
Speaker:which will also be in the show Notes podcast.
Speaker:But we are already free.com and leave a voice note, ask a
Speaker:question, ask for some support and I will put it in a future episode.
Speaker:You know, please be a part of this.
Speaker:Let's make this interactive.
Speaker:I would love to know who you are
Speaker:and what is alive for you in this moment.
Speaker:I this podcast like it's hard for me to keep my words small because
Speaker:I love speaking and I love sharing stories.
Speaker:So I'm really trying to keep the intro like just to a few minutes
Speaker:just to really get the info out there that helps people to enjoy
Speaker:these conversations with people I find super inspiring.
Speaker:And then I'm using the end just to kind of connect with you a bit
Speaker:more for myself as I am and hoping that I can be of service and I
Speaker:would really love to be able to support you as a listener.
Speaker:So again, if you want to leave a voice note, send me a message I
Speaker:get in touch, it's all again one more time at podcast.
Speaker:Dot we are already free dot com and let me know your thoughts.
Speaker:This is a new podcast, so yeah, go there as well.
Speaker:There's a link there to leave a review.
Speaker:That is probably the most important action if you're wanting
Speaker:to support this podcast.
Speaker:If you feel like well more people
Speaker:need to hear about this is amazing.
Speaker:Is yeah, go to podcast.
Speaker:Dot we are already free dot com.
Speaker:You'll see a link in the show notes to review and leave a review
Speaker:on wherever you listen.
Speaker:And it makes a massive difference
Speaker:like how many more people get to listen to the podcast when there
Speaker:are more reviews.
Speaker:So that's what I would just ask
Speaker:and thank you so much.
Speaker:Either way, enjoy i wish you.
Speaker:Deep breaths.
Speaker:I wish you calm.
Speaker:I wish you connection.
Speaker:And more than anything, the
Speaker:remembrance that we are already free.
